New Loveland Updates

[Everydog]

Dramad1 , The fishing could be better, but it's returning quickly. You have some memories there! Go back and make some more, but not the life-flight kind! It's excellent for hiking out towards the shallow end now. A guy came out and busted some legal trails when the water went high, and gradually, anglers made the shoreline fishable. As you know, it's rare for the water to be so high, and it's beautiful.

[Roncador]

Glad you are getting somewhere with this Russel. Petition signed!

[Everydog]

Glad you are getting somewhere with this Russel. Petition signed!

It's so cool to see you here, George! Awesome.
I hope we are getting somewhere. The petition only helped get more people aware of the ripoff on the hours.
The situation Is in better shape than the last time we talked. The public focus has grown big time.

[Everydog]

Sweetwater is once again harassing people who are taking reasonable shortcuts to get to the back of the lake.
SDGE offered Sweetwater a path to open the power pole maintenance roads, which would have been incredibly easy, safer, and kinder to lake users and first responders. SDGE ignored it the opportunity. This and wasting the 750k grant are consistent with what all long time lake users know. That Sweetwater is trying to hoard and condemn as much of the public easement as they can. This is socially HOSTILE.

[Everydog]

Likely Good News Based on the intervention I have sought from the Division of Drinking Water:

We/Loveland should get more toilets in the areas we want to fish in now, including those by Japatul Road. Hopefully, a few toilets will be left permanently around the high water line for Hikers, and the rest will be moved as the water line fluctuates for us anglers.

I am working on other ideas with a hiking Subject Matter Expert and Loveland enthusiast, John Allen, who some of you have seen around the lake or talking about Loveland on social media including support me on behalf of all lake users, to improve access around the lake at all water levels without having Sweetwater harass us.
That started with the push to use the SDGE pole line area, which continues, but a new push has even more significant potential. Your support and involvement in these efforts are crucial, and I look forward to working together to improve our fishing and hiking experiences at Loveland.

[Everydog]

Public records show that toilets and trash cans will be around the fishing program unless Sweetwater can go to Sacramento and get a free pass.
Sweetwater has used toilet withholding and picking on us about walking on Japatul Road to hoard the legal fishing and hiking program.

[Everydog]

First, I am not advising anyone to do anything Sweetwater does not allow.

I have asked Sweetwater to remove the barbed wire and or put six pedestrian gates on the Japatul road section of the hiking, fishing, and bird-watching easement. These measures are intended to improve access and safety for us when we use Japtul road to circumvent obstacles in the path around the lake, including barbed wire, high water, two bridges, and a dangerous bluff. We don't need gates, but it seems Sweetwater would want them. We need Sweetwater to remove the barbed wire in a few locations. Please quit bothering me with threats of trespassing for using Japatul.

Sweetwater's GM knows that the gates would be better and cheaper. Still, he wants to avoid installing the toilets they must put along the shoreline of the hiking, fishing, and bird-watching program to comply with their 2003 water permit and the fishing program CEQA document from 1996 ( environmental document for the fishing program).

It appears the state is going to enforce the toilets for now. So Sweetwater should expedite the 20-year late toilet compliance and remove the barbed wire in our user-defined trails area.

[Everydog]

Response from Parks and Recreation to efforts to open the little parking lot on Japatul Road by the shallow end of Loveland.

It's very constructive, with apparently no problems opening that lot with the County.
Sweetwater will likely reject it if it can. Which it can.

Closing part of the letter from County of San Diego Parks and Recreation below.

In the information that you provided, you requested that the County conduct analyses or coordination with SWA that would be necessary to open the parking lot for public use. DPR coordinates regularly with SWA on a variety of issues and will be meeting with SWA to discuss the parking lot and determine the potential barriers to opening this facility to public use. Based on all information the County has at this time, given that the parking lot is not on County property and is an existing facility, no County approvals or analyses appear to be required to open the parking lot. If after coordinating with SWA, the County determines that there are issues related to the parking lot that are within the County’s authority to address, our team is committed to working through those issues as expeditiously as possible.
JASON HEMMENS
INTERIM DIRECTOR
DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION
5510 OVERLAND AVENUE, SUITE 210, SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA 92123
(858) 565-3600
www.sdparks.org

[Everydog]

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[Everydog]

USFWS is covering up impacts dewatering Loveland had on decades of projects downstream. DFW who owns some of the preserve land trying to be invisible like it was on our fishery and wildlife dislocation on the wet side of the dam. USFWS with help from a Sweetwater Biologist, non-sensically claims that the sediment that buried the turtle ponds, one of the most invested in and most populated in the county came from Lawson creek and not the 400,000 cubic yards Sweetwater caused to be dislodged and shifted downstream while the dam was open.

Hard not to think it's all a system of lies and favors. People might not know this, but it no suprise that USFWS or any agency allows Sweetwater to construct the official stories and legal interpretations on all of this.

[Everydog]

Let's see where we are in six months! LOL. inside joke, man.

About a year after where it all started, which was with Sweetwater locking us out of Loveland during Covid (some of the best Loveland fishing of my life): https://inewsource.org/2021/04/22/sweet ... reservoir/

[Everydog]

A huge multi-agency cover-up continues on the source of conservation project, turtle habitat, damaging sediments into the ecological reserve behind Loveland dam. All the risk and damage was initiated when Sweetwater robbed the minimum pool from Loveland. Also of course all the terrible impacts to the fish and fishing float and other things on the reservoir side of the dam . Colossal screw up big coverups going on , and the Reserve Damage is only one of them. More agencies more lie, I mean "best science". So much unnecessary harm, and laws are for you little people but not us.

[Everydog]

Anyway that post above is pretty gloomy. It's hard to push for accountabilit, nobody wants it. Pressure on those unethical situations is all leading me to beilieve that the fishing program won't collapse for decades and some perks I have been workng on meanwhile are getting enough support that they will materialize. Toilets , use of the pole line road, maybe better access around Japatul , sunrise to sunset , and even some work on the fishery. Time will tell.

[Everydog]

If you can find one person out there with credentials who doesn't think those of us without don't deserve to be in last place, in any situation, and who has the guts to step up, please let me know, you win my favorite fishing lure or any other of your choice. Too bad, I don't buy it.

[Everydog]

The Next Loveland Recreation Meeting with Sweetwater is Tuesday Novemember 12 5:00 - 7:00 PM at the Alpine Women's club.
The important people in our communities and Sweetwater have decided to waste the money in the small area aound the access path and not help with access around the 5 mile fishing program easement. Of course, doing their best to constrain our access, including ignoring that the easement is for sunrise to sunet, it is what we have always faced. This is the second time Sweetwater has had a 750k grant to make access better and has wasted most of it to perpetually constrain hiking fishing and nature watching in our 5 miles of shoreline.

There will be people at the meeting informed and ready to push the issue in reasonable, but no doubt terms. Please come , prepared, or unprepared and support all of our sticking our necks out over the years since Sweetwater drained Lovlenad and since they took down the sign that match our easement hours and shortened them severely against the good of all working people and their familes.
This may be the best and last change YOU and Me have to make an impact on this lake. Please show up.

[Everydog]

Loveland meeting next Tuesday but I don't think anyone from here is going.

Next topic for Loveland and in general: Especailly for and Wildlife folks lurking and sometimes there is at least one.

I recently spent almost two hours speakinng with DFW, and maybe an hour and a half with USGS yesterday about there concens for Loveland's future and Loveland people . These wildlife agencies are extemely contradicatory. where bass fishing is cocerned for instance DFW has catch limits and license requirements where USFWS want all non-natives dead, especially bass. Also they hate crawfish, which I found are invasive and one of the things that can deal with the toxicity of toads and polliwogs apparently, but you can't catch them and use them for bait at Loveland . You can''t catch a bluegill and use it for bait and take the bass or catfish, which USFWS doesn't want in the lake home to eat it, and certaily don't take six of the fish they don't want in the lake home and eat it.

Mostly starving bass will eat tadpoles of toads and maybe toads, I tried a toad for once and the bass kept spitting it out. but in any case they won't stock shad in lLoveland so the bass have more HARMLESS forage to keep bass fuller and that actually helps sustaing grebes and other birds that the people want healthy. And the money made and spent on these things so the sSweetwater Auhthority can screw them up half the time...and then do it again, is a lot. Plus retirements.

[Everydog]

What I am saying in short is that US wildlife scientists and damn near every other Loveland affiliated regulator hating bass and catfish is no excuse for destroying the common man's Loveland fishery . That is my argument after I was told to "go fish someplace else" because I was discussing bass and catfish fisheries , specifically Loveland, vs arroyo toad competition . My answer, fix it our your cost not only ours. We will cooperate, but not be screwed. This snobbish and class-based morality pervades public and nonprofit conservation and environmentalism movements. They can't dominate the corporations, logging industry and such, but they can dominate the powerless individuals and families who own public fishing rights and feel smug virtuous , and full of job security while they do it.

[Everydog]

Loveland meeting last night.
About 90% of the raucous crowd is mad about Sweetwater's steering towards useless, wasteful, and even unnecessary damaging to the environment plans. Some of the projects were entirely or partially pushed in around after the last meeting; we had and are very unpopular and take up more than half the grant money doing nothing for better hiking, fishing, and nature watching.
Sweetwater leadership at the meeting just acted like a helpless broken record with the needled stuck on "bullshit".
Let's see where this goes. They act like the projects are set in stone, and they can't actually help with access around the 5-mile legal easement.
Please See the next post about that because there is potentially some improvement.

[Everydog]

Email Victor Gaus regarding this post or talk with Sweetwater watershed caretakers, sometimes referred to as "rangers" at the lake. Victor is the Loveland Crew Supervisor for Sweetwater, among other things.
I am not giving any legal advice or directing what anyone does. Please talk to Sweetwater.
Contact
Victor Gaus
Senior Watershed Manager,
Sweetwater Authority

[email protected]

Last night, Mr. Gaus said that Lake caretakers, the guys in the boat, and Sweetwater Trucks will not hassle legally permitted Loveland Fishing people from entering the easement from the CRHT trail, under the bridge, and from Japatul Road, including being dropped off. Safety on the road, of course, is a concern, but it is public property. Again, I am not giving legal advice on the fishing program; I am just encouraging people to clarify with Sweetwater if they want to access the 50-foot-wide Forest Service easement in any way.

My OPINION is that Sweetwater should mark the locations where the 50-foot Forest Service easement intersects with Japatul Road to avoid confusion and direct foot traffic away from travel in vegetation outside the easement. That would be an ecological/conservation requirement for Sweetwater.

I want you to know that Sweetwater is the legally responsible party for the fishing program and may deny any of what was verbally delivered by the Senior Person in charge of Loveland, Victor Gaus and that I am sharing it only for discussion purposes here. Some pullback is expected even. Could you talk to the lake caretakers and others at Sweetwater? Other advocates and I will continue to try to get Sweetwater to help make things clear and put up gates, signage, and toilets to help the peaceful enjoyment of our Forest Service hiking, fishing, and nature-watching easements at all water levels.




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[Everydog]

Lately, I have been getting a more accurate idea of counter-activism in Loveland. It has been so pervasive. It started with the Forest Service and a handful of politicians caring for Sweetwater, deferring to their clout. Since the two disastrous dewatering, now far-reaching counter-activism is taking care of a lot more politicians and regulators who have screwed up and covered up too much for too long.