New Loveland Updates

[Everydog]

This is what happens when all Loveland Advocates at the meeting are unified on the topic.
Sweetwater voted unanimously to put the fishing float back in the same location, size, and quality. We continued to press them on restocking fish and sunrise to sunset or longer hours and not draining the reasonable(agreed t0) water levels again.

[Everydog]

Sweetwater Authority is lobbying Sacramento for 200 Acres of floating solar panels on Sweetwater reservoir. This includes, or will include public funding requests. With minimum water levels to float the solar this will most likely impact Loveland Reservoir like it was in 2022/2023, especially during low rain years. Why ruin one reservoir when you can ruin two?
A few of the directors have been trying to industrialize the organization away from water, and water and enviromnental and recreation balance since they were elected. First it was a failed attempt to sell water out of the district, then a four year failed sand mining scheme and now the floating solar panels.

[Everydog]

Where on earth are the hits on this low participation thread coming from?

[Everydog]

On this day of FREEDOM and PATRIOTISM, I have some evidence that points to California Regulators for several departments and Federal Cabinet-level offices and congressmen flat-out suppressing, and having for four years now separately and jointly suppressed environmental protection and public benefits owed to citizens at Loveland. I don't know if I can go anywhere with it other than crazy, but it's an interesting layer of the onion so to speak.
I am not a conspiracy theorist but, if this all continues it is a conspiracy of some kind.

At various times this suppression may have been from incompetent individuals but not any more. I have been through three of Congressman Issa's legislative directors and previously with constituent casework with Juan Vargas. It's not laziness or incompetence at all, it could not be more intentional at all levels now.

[camobass]

Loveland is in California, controlled by….well NOT the people. So it totally makes sense.

[Everydog]

Parallel paths of suppression in California and Washington that we made get in cahoots so they could collaborate in enforcing the suckage for us. What is it that we used to say at work, the beatings will continue until morale improves.

[Everydog]

Loveland is in California, controlled by….well NOT the people. So it makes sense.

Like I said it's Washington DC too. Both Governments failed and our local politicians from the planning group chair up to our State representatives resisted and are resisting our pleas for help or had started to help but have stood down because of Washington and CalEPA and State Waterboards. DFW is also not clean. However, our local people from DFW would like to help if they could.

[Everydog]

Hopefully, the suppression ends and the USDA Cabinet Secretary, Congressman Issa, CalEPA, and Waterboards will help everybody stand back up including the Forest Service and DFW.

[Everydog]

Update on Sunrise to Sunset.
Many will remember that some of us have been advocating for this since reviewing the Fishing Program Forest Service Easement and origination documents during our fight to get Loveland open during COVID-19.

There was a high spot with a meeting with the Forest Service that we pushed for last fall. The Forest Service publically said that they understood that Sunrise to Sunset was Desirable to the public. There was at least a lukewarm offer by Forest Supervisor, Scott Tangberg to look at it again.

After that meeting. The Descanso Ranger decided to selectively work with the Nonprofit I helped start but left. Friends of Loveland Reservoir. Bummer.
Instead of standing with those advocates demanding adherence to the easement which directly states 'Sunrise to Sunset". The Ranger and this group went off on a long path of looking at schemes for volunteers to close the lake at Sunset and would not effectively talk or update others until recently.

All Schemes for volunteers were shut down as predicted by earlier advocates and another summer without legal sunrise to sunset is going by lake users, especially working people who can't go with the current short hours. Volunteer schemes are too weak compared to the easement and should be seen as unreliable, even if they were to succeed, which they have not.

We are asking the Ranger to meet for an update with all the public not just the nonprofit.


Kyle Smith

US Forest Service

Cleveland National

Descanso Ranger





Dear Ranger Smith,



Please give your constituents open communication about the Sunrise to Sunset access progress at Loveland Reservoir



As I understand it, the first scheme was rejected by Sweetwater, and the second scheme, which involved FS volunteers, was rejected by the US Forest Service legal counsel. Is this correct?



My understanding is based on a few things:



Your emails to several FS constituents shortly after the meeting last fall at the Alpine Community Planning Group where the unanimous public interest in Sunrise to Sunset was voiced again by a large group of citizens, including Friends of Loveland Reservoir directors, and ACPG board members. These emails of yours told lake users that a volunteer scheme had been discussed and that we should contact Friends of Loveland Reservoir, not the Forest Service for updates.



Updates were scarce and lake advocates continued to push for Sunrise to Sunset.

Finally, we have the recent update from Friends of Loveland which now seems to show that volunteer schemes are unwelcomed by the Forest Service and Sweetwater unless it is run by the Forest Service.





Could you please advise on the next steps? We are eager to discuss this important topic, which we have been working on for four years. We are particularly interested in whether you would be willing to meet with constituents who consider the Forest Service, and not, or not exclusively any, a local non-profit group, as our representative at Loveland Reservoir.

Please consider offering a meeting, At your office, at the Alpine Community Planning Group, or another public place, perhaps the Loveland recreation program parking lot.


Sincerely,



Russell Walsh

4639 Montiel Truck Trail

Jamul CA, 91935

[Everydog]

I caught a bass in the two-pound range yesterday and lost one close in about 1/2 pound bigger. About 12 fish in total with lots of misses and pecks on my T-rig booger worms. Rough going out there though, hot, poison oak, thick brush down to the water line.

I have been pushing for more toilets around the legal easement and yesterday there was one new one. We need them down by the Native American archeological sites on both sides of the reservoir. I believe more chemical toilets are required by the CA Department of Water Resources and although we see California regulators ignore, dismiss, or forgive all sorts of Sweetwater infractions it's possible DWR will encourage more toilets.

[Everydog]

I’d be happy if they stocked Northerns. Aggressive numbers

Largest fish for me since draining. Looks like the northern strain with the little mouth. Other dinks had longish jaws that will be more Florida strain-like?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Dmh ... sp=sharing

Seems like quite a few genetic strains or hybrids are growing in Loveland now.

[camobass]

Word has it, a bunch from alpine fisheries bass made it in there. Tiger bass. A florida/northern hybrid.

[Everydog]

Sorry if I reported your post....got a weird message about a reported post when I tried to submit a response.

The genetic story of the clones is weird and there were too many of them after the devastation for it to be random bucket biologists. However, I am not sold on "tiger bass" or Alpine fisheries having anything to do with it. Maybe time will clear things up definitively.

[camobass]

My buddy stocks his lake with the tiger bass from alpine fisheries and they are identical to the Loveland bass- Small mouth and tall/short bodies. I heard the guy from alpine fisheries verified it’s definitely his bass and apparently there was a large, private citizen purchase that matches the timeline for size. Who knows.

[Everydog]

Here is a Sweetwater report on guidelines for the trail improvements advocates fought for. The target completion date is 2025, maybe.
It was sent to me from Senator Brian Jones's office today. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JTKrjV ... sp=sharing
Short version,
A parallel path to the new bridge across to the fishing float.
A lookout platform along the existing path.
The bridge from the bottom of the steep trail crosses over to the fishing float side.
A Loveland master plan containing additional trails around the lake and new access points. THERE IS NO FUNDING of Timeframe for any actual new stuff.

[Everydog]

All the above happened because of the decision to fight Sweetwater and never back down. At this time, the Sunrise to Sunset discussion needs to change to one that includes milestones for when it will open. I and a few others are still working on that.

[Everydog]

There may be more momentum for Loveland to attempt to gain access. I can't/wont share what is planned because I don't have control of the follow-up. I'll [post breaking news here if it happens. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I'm hoping for the best for Loveland enthusiasts. Improvements at any lake are good for all lake advocacy. It's great to see fishing groups and the leaders of the San Diego Bass Fishing Facebook page going for it.

[dano626]

Thank you for the updates! Hopefully your hard work will have future generations enjoy this beautiful lake!

[Everydog]

It won't be the same, but improvements the County of San Diego proposed years ago could save Loveland as a fishing place. Sweetwater told SD County Staff to go to hell at that time and demanded some development fees instead. That brings up the other central theme in the story: the county getting involved in rural lakes. Diane Jacob started that, and Supervisor Anderson made campaign promises about it. He is slow to fulfill them, but he is trying. The county has a massive tax base from rapid home inflation, so people should ask for lake amenities that the city won't fund.

[Everydog]

Here is the Loveland Sunrise to Sunset Petition.
It also shows Anderson is still connected to the other rural lakes initiative he started.
I guess there are reasons not to sign or help with this petition.
What people have cared about during the Loveland advocacy period are:

Fishing, of course,
Saving the lake for the environmental balance and wildlife support.
Saving the lake as a fire protection boundary and fire fighting resource.

By signing the Loveland Sunrise to Sunset Petition, you're not just supporting a cause but investing in our community's future. Your commitment will help increase Supervisor Anderson's dedication to this lake and our collective investment in Loveland Reservoir which can prevent repeat destruction as we saw in 2022 and which Sweetwater has not committed to avoiding.