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Massachusetts Fishing

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:18 am
by KamWalsh
Hi everyone, I moved to Massachusetts a month ago and have been fishing a lot in my free time. I had heard people tell me that the inshore fishing here was good but I wasn't expecting it to be this good. I'm not even exaggerating, I think I've caught close to 200 striper since late August. I caught four the first evening I was here and had pretty consistent success picking off a few most of the times I went out. Productive spots were pretty easy to find since it seemed like anywhere there were bunker schools, the bass were nearby. Everyone told me that the fishing hadn't even gotten good yet and I needed to wait for the first cold snap/storm to trigger the fall run. I was a little skeptical, but then it happened and the fishing completely busted wide open with lots of 20-30 fish nights. Mostly schoolies with some bigger fish mixed in. Most of the bass have been caught on paddletail swimbaits, but I've also had some really good fishing with pencil poppers and even surface irons. I never was a big fan of those lures when I lived in SoCal but they work great in situations where you want to make long casts and cover water quickly, but the fish aren't fired up enough to smash poppers. Only problem is that surface irons were definitely not meant for fishing in close-quarters, shallow water estuaries and rivers, so I've definitely lost my fair share in trees or snags.

In addition to bass, I've run into plenty of bluefish anywhere from little snappers to big ones. I've found the bluefish to be trickier than the bass, which is the opposite from what I expected since I always heard that the striper were the elusive ones and the bluefish were the ravenous piranhas that eat anything and bite swimmers. I think the fact that I've mostly been fishing in low-salinity backwaters has contributed to this, since I imagine the bluefish have much lower tolerance to freshwater than the striper and only roll through for brief periods instead of hanging out in the rivers for extended stretches. I've also done some fishing for scup and more recently tautog off the rocks. Both are fun to catch but after giving the tog my first couple of tries last weekend I can see why they have a dedicated following, despite their relatively small size and unassuming appearance. Very similar to sheephead fishing, except they're more challenging to hook and fight harder for their size. It also seems to be easier to access them from shore than sheephead, where you really need to have the right spot, and I was surprised at how much cheaper live crabs are here than market shrimp were in California.

Overall, the fishing here has been great so far. The fact that most of the species (except a few holdover stripers in the backwaters, and the tautog (although they're closed for fishing during winter)) vacate the area during the brutal winters is unfortunate, but I imagine this only makes you appreciate the fishing more when the season is on. Plus, I think the fact that the more migratory species need to pack on as much weight as possible before heading south makes them feed more aggressively and be less picky about conditions. I really enjoyed the fishing while I lived in SoCal, as it can be really tough and makes you a lot better at fishing (especially live bait fishing; the biggest striper I've caught here so far was on a dead mackerel and the guy I was fishing with told me that they like lazy baits more), but this is a nice change of pace. As you guys all know, SoCal has some great fishing to offer, but the inshore department in particular is kind of lacking compared to the east coast. A lot of species available, definitely the best inshore fishing on the west coast, and the year-round fishing is a major advantage, but consistently catching big fish in SoCal inshore waters is a lot harder (in my opinion) and requires a lot more experience and time on the water. In addition, it feels like you really need a serious boat and/or a lot of money to spend to consistently capitalize on the region's most exciting fisheries. The SoCal "fishing season" is dominated by offshore fishing, and when you factor in the long runs, necessity of purchasing live bait that can't be practically caught oneself, and high cost of living that makes everything from fuel to charters more expensive than just about everywhere else, it can be pretty costly to get on the water. I went on one inshore charter here so far, and the cost of the entire boat was cheaper than a single spot on most 4 pac operations (or even a lot of longer sport boat trips) in San Diego. Massachusetts is also far from the cheapest state to live in. I found that my favorite fishing seasons in San Diego were honestly the winter and spring, as it admittedly is sometimes hard to want to fish for Spotties in summer when everyone going offshore is getting tuna, yellowtail, or dorado. Even the fact that the best inshore-style fishing in SoCal is at the offshore islands contributes to this. I still do miss Yellowtail, though. Nothing over here in the inshore department fights nearly as hard, but on the flip side, it means you can get pretty lazy about changing out your nicked or roughed up leaders!

Photos here:
https://ibb.co/album/SJQbkr

Re: Massachusetts Fishing

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:30 am
by foulhook
Nice to hear an out of state report!! Them are some nice size stripers

Re: Massachusetts Fishing

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:58 am
by galen
F’n awesome. Is the tautog the dark one? Interesting fish

Re: Massachusetts Fishing

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:25 pm
by salt water guy
Those stripers are quite the table fare species. I grew up in the Chesapeake Bay region of MD where they were widely known as "rockfish." Glad to see they're plentiful, (which hasn't always been the case). Thanks for the report!

Re: Massachusetts Fishing

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 6:08 pm
by Gotfish?
KamWalsh wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:18 am Hi everyone, I moved to Massachusetts a month ago and have been fishing a lot in my free time. I had heard people tell me that the inshore fishing here was good but I wasn't expecting it to be this good. I'm not even exaggerating, I think I've caught close to 200 striper since late August. I caught four the first evening I was here and had pretty consistent success picking off a few most of the times I went out. Productive spots were pretty easy to find since it seemed like anywhere there were bunker schools, the bass were nearby. Everyone told me that the fishing hadn't even gotten good yet and I needed to wait for the first cold snap/storm to trigger the fall run. I was a little skeptical, but then it happened and the fishing completely busted wide open with lots of 20-30 fish nights. Mostly schoolies with some bigger fish mixed in. Most of the bass have been caught on paddletail swimbaits, but I've also had some really good fishing with pencil poppers and even surface irons. I never was a big fan of those lures when I lived in SoCal but they work great in situations where you want to make long casts and cover water quickly, but the fish aren't fired up enough to smash poppers. Only problem is that surface irons were definitely not meant for fishing in close-quarters, shallow water estuaries and rivers, so I've definitely lost my fair share in trees or snags.

In addition to bass, I've run into plenty of bluefish anywhere from little snappers to big ones. I've found the bluefish to be trickier than the bass, which is the opposite from what I expected since I always heard that the striper were the elusive ones and the bluefish were the ravenous piranhas that eat anything and bite swimmers. I think the fact that I've mostly been fishing in low-salinity backwaters has contributed to this, since I imagine the bluefish have much lower tolerance to freshwater than the striper and only roll through for brief periods instead of hanging out in the rivers for extended stretches. I've also done some fishing for scup and more recently tautog off the rocks. Both are fun to catch but after giving the tog my first couple of tries last weekend I can see why they have a dedicated following, despite their relatively small size and unassuming appearance. Very similar to sheephead fishing, except they're more challenging to hook and fight harder for their size. It also seems to be easier to access them from shore than sheephead, where you really need to have the right spot, and I was surprised at how much cheaper live crabs are here than market shrimp were in California.

Overall, the fishing here has been great so far. The fact that most of the species (except a few holdover stripers in the backwaters, and the tautog (although they're closed for fishing during winter)) vacate the area during the brutal winters is unfortunate, but I imagine this only makes you appreciate the fishing more when the season is on. Plus, I think the fact that the more migratory species need to pack on as much weight as possible before heading south makes them feed more aggressively and be less picky about conditions. I really enjoyed the fishing while I lived in SoCal, as it can be really tough and makes you a lot better at fishing (especially live bait fishing; the biggest striper I've caught here so far was on a dead mackerel and the guy I was fishing with told me that they like lazy baits more), but this is a nice change of pace. As you guys all know, SoCal has some great fishing to offer, but the inshore department in particular is kind of lacking compared to the east coast. A lot of species available, definitely the best inshore fishing on the west coast, and the year-round fishing is a major advantage, but consistently catching big fish in SoCal inshore waters is a lot harder (in my opinion) and requires a lot more experience and time on the water. In addition, it feels like you really need a serious boat and/or a lot of money to spend to consistently capitalize on the region's most exciting fisheries. The SoCal "fishing season" is dominated by offshore fishing, and when you factor in the long runs, necessity of purchasing live bait that can't be practically caught oneself, and high cost of living that makes everything from fuel to charters more expensive than just about everywhere else, it can be pretty costly to get on the water. I went on one inshore charter here so far, and the cost of the entire boat was cheaper than a single spot on most 4 pac operations (or even a lot of longer sport boat trips) in San Diego. Massachusetts is also far from the cheapest state to live in. I found that my favorite fishing seasons in San Diego were honestly the winter and spring, as it admittedly is sometimes hard to want to fish for Spotties in summer when everyone going offshore is getting tuna, yellowtail, or dorado. Even the fact that the best inshore-style fishing in SoCal is at the offshore islands contributes to this. I still do miss Yellowtail, though. Nothing over here in the inshore department fights nearly as hard, but on the flip side, it means you can get pretty lazy about changing out your nicked or roughed up leaders!

Photos here:
https://ibb.co/album/SJQbkr
Nice. Bluefish are a blast to catch, just keep your fingers far from those chompers. Seen them bite thru hooks or at least break hooks in two.

Re: Massachusetts Fishing

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:32 pm
by William Ritchie
Have you had opportunity to check out the Cape Cod canal ? Has been a bucket list item for me for years . Thanks for the report . WR

Re: Massachusetts Fishing

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:35 pm
by Gotfish?
William Ritchie wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:32 pm Have you had opportunity to check out the Cape Cod canal ? Has been a bucket list item for me for years . Thanks for the report . WR
No, my experience with fishing the East Coast was decades ago with bluefish on night party boats during a business assignment. Lots of fun though.

Re: Massachusetts Fishing

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:20 am
by KamWalsh
Gotfish? wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 6:08 pm
KamWalsh wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:18 am Hi everyone, I moved to Massachusetts a month ago and have been fishing a lot in my free time. I had heard people tell me that the inshore fishing here was good but I wasn't expecting it to be this good. I'm not even exaggerating, I think I've caught close to 200 striper since late August. I caught four the first evening I was here and had pretty consistent success picking off a few most of the times I went out. Productive spots were pretty easy to find since it seemed like anywhere there were bunker schools, the bass were nearby. Everyone told me that the fishing hadn't even gotten good yet and I needed to wait for the first cold snap/storm to trigger the fall run. I was a little skeptical, but then it happened and the fishing completely busted wide open with lots of 20-30 fish nights. Mostly schoolies with some bigger fish mixed in. Most of the bass have been caught on paddletail swimbaits, but I've also had some really good fishing with pencil poppers and even surface irons. I never was a big fan of those lures when I lived in SoCal but they work great in situations where you want to make long casts and cover water quickly, but the fish aren't fired up enough to smash poppers. Only problem is that surface irons were definitely not meant for fishing in close-quarters, shallow water estuaries and rivers, so I've definitely lost my fair share in trees or snags.

In addition to bass, I've run into plenty of bluefish anywhere from little snappers to big ones. I've found the bluefish to be trickier than the bass, which is the opposite from what I expected since I always heard that the striper were the elusive ones and the bluefish were the ravenous piranhas that eat anything and bite swimmers. I think the fact that I've mostly been fishing in low-salinity backwaters has contributed to this, since I imagine the bluefish have much lower tolerance to freshwater than the striper and only roll through for brief periods instead of hanging out in the rivers for extended stretches. I've also done some fishing for scup and more recently tautog off the rocks. Both are fun to catch but after giving the tog my first couple of tries last weekend I can see why they have a dedicated following, despite their relatively small size and unassuming appearance. Very similar to sheephead fishing, except they're more challenging to hook and fight harder for their size. It also seems to be easier to access them from shore than sheephead, where you really need to have the right spot, and I was surprised at how much cheaper live crabs are here than market shrimp were in California.

Overall, the fishing here has been great so far. The fact that most of the species (except a few holdover stripers in the backwaters, and the tautog (although they're closed for fishing during winter)) vacate the area during the brutal winters is unfortunate, but I imagine this only makes you appreciate the fishing more when the season is on. Plus, I think the fact that the more migratory species need to pack on as much weight as possible before heading south makes them feed more aggressively and be less picky about conditions. I really enjoyed the fishing while I lived in SoCal, as it can be really tough and makes you a lot better at fishing (especially live bait fishing; the biggest striper I've caught here so far was on a dead mackerel and the guy I was fishing with told me that they like lazy baits more), but this is a nice change of pace. As you guys all know, SoCal has some great fishing to offer, but the inshore department in particular is kind of lacking compared to the east coast. A lot of species available, definitely the best inshore fishing on the west coast, and the year-round fishing is a major advantage, but consistently catching big fish in SoCal inshore waters is a lot harder (in my opinion) and requires a lot more experience and time on the water. In addition, it feels like you really need a serious boat and/or a lot of money to spend to consistently capitalize on the region's most exciting fisheries. The SoCal "fishing season" is dominated by offshore fishing, and when you factor in the long runs, necessity of purchasing live bait that can't be practically caught oneself, and high cost of living that makes everything from fuel to charters more expensive than just about everywhere else, it can be pretty costly to get on the water. I went on one inshore charter here so far, and the cost of the entire boat was cheaper than a single spot on most 4 pac operations (or even a lot of longer sport boat trips) in San Diego. Massachusetts is also far from the cheapest state to live in. I found that my favorite fishing seasons in San Diego were honestly the winter and spring, as it admittedly is sometimes hard to want to fish for Spotties in summer when everyone going offshore is getting tuna, yellowtail, or dorado. Even the fact that the best inshore-style fishing in SoCal is at the offshore islands contributes to this. I still do miss Yellowtail, though. Nothing over here in the inshore department fights nearly as hard, but on the flip side, it means you can get pretty lazy about changing out your nicked or roughed up leaders!

Photos here:
https://ibb.co/album/SJQbkr
Nice. Bluefish are a blast to catch, just keep your fingers far from those chompers. Seen them bite thru hooks or at least break hooks in two.
Yeah they are a crazy fish. It's insane how hard they fight when they start to get big. The fight almost reminds me of a steelhead; very unpredictable and you don't know if they're going to launch themselves 3 feet out of the water, go on screaming runs, or both. And the teeth are no joke! Definitely unlike the teeth of any other fish in the region; since their lips cover them they don't look super intimidating in photos but when you pull the lips back it becomes very clear that if you get bit by one, it's not an "ouchie" but a hospital visit. Caught a 30'' one last night.

Re: Massachusetts Fishing

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:26 am
by KamWalsh
William Ritchie wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:32 pm Have you had opportunity to check out the Cape Cod canal ? Has been a bucket list item for me for years . Thanks for the report . WR
I have a couple times but haven't really had much success there so far or really put any kind of regular, consistent time into it. I think the fact that the fishing right on my doorstep has been so good that a 30-40 minute drive to catch the same species hasn't been super appealing, especially considering that it has some of the most infamous combat fishing in the world. I actually tried earlier in the day yesterday at that one spot by the railroad bridge that's notorious for having the worst of it, but since it was midday there weren't many people there and it was a pretty laidback vibe even though people were getting tangled as false albacore were moving in. Speaking of those -THE MOST AGGRAVATING "BONITA" IN THE WORLD. I don't know if I've just drawn the short straw and found unusually finicky ones, but I had countless opportunities at them over the long weekend and couldn't get a bite. Absolutely ridiculous. I never understood why they're so hyped up over here compared to most other parts of the world, where they're a trash fish or at the very least some cheap, easy, light-tackle consolation when more desirable species aren't cooperating, but so far they have been by far the most difficult fish for me to catch here and I can see how their difficulty makes them a prized catch. I'm talking 10+ people all casting at the same school and nobody getting bit; worse than SoCal bluefin. It's funny because when talking to people about the fishing here for real tuna, they say that they're the opposite and are usually pretty cooperative if you can find them. Nobody even uses live bait unless targeting the jumbos.

Re: Massachusetts Fishing

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:04 pm
by KamWalsh
galen wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:58 am F’n awesome. Is the tautog the dark one? Interesting fish
Yes those are tautog, a lot of fun to catch. Very similar to sheephead but I think they're a better gamefish since they're trickier to hook, pull even harder for their size, and don't seem like they've gotten badly depleted in recent years (although I don't know their past history well). They have a much bigger following here than sheephead do on the west coast, but just like sheephead I think they're also super overrated eating although theyre fun to catch.